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2008 05 09: TROY INTERVIEWS LEO LYON ZAGAMI #3 - 200 MINS.

PLEASE CLICK THE FOLLOWING U.R.L. TO DOWNLOAD OR STREAM THIS NEW & INDEPTH 

TRANSATLANTIC INTERVIEW WITH LEO, IN A RELATIVELY INFORMAL, RADIO-FREE PHONE CALL 

RECORDING:
 
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Dear friends

I have recorded a third phone call interview with Leo Zagami in the early hours of 

the morning (GMT), this one clocks in at 200 minutes.

In this impromptu interview Leo reveals far more of the intrigues that led to the 

breakup of his marriage, his leaving Norway for Rome & his departure for America. Leo 

discusses the effects of the manipulations of both the European Illuminati & the 

Jesuits on his life that led to his return to the Monte Carlo Lodge. He affirms that 

this situation can be turned to his advantage in his stated mission to introduce a 

large amount of overt transparency to the machinations of those factions of the 

Illuminati whose support he says he has & is trying to expand.

Leo still maintains that he is against the Vatican & the Jesuits, the latter he 

blames for contriving conditions that led to his marriage breakup. We find out more 

about Leo?s esoteric outlook & I quiz him on many confusing & concerning statements. 

Also discussed is the criticism regarding Leo?s agenda in some quarters of the New 

World Order conspiracy research world. Few opportunities are missed for Leo to 

indulge in his unique brand of dark humour.

Note: Throughout the interview Leo refers to ?the Order?. He later posted the 

following email to clarify what he is using this term to refer to.
THE ORDER?
From: leo young (leoyoung1999@yahoo.com)
Sent: 10 May 2008 23:49:29
To: troy

When Im refering to the Order in your interview Im
talking about the Knights Templars though as we know
the Jesuits have been closely linked to the Knight
Templar untill now, especialy after their creation of
the Charter of Larmenius in 1705 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larmenius_Charter
this infamous Charter was a complete fabrication of
the Jesuits and that?s a real problem at present
within Templar circles.
Some very interesting info on the Knights Templar of
Don Fernando Campello Pinto Pereira de Sousa Fontes
another illustrius member of the Monte Carlo Lodge in
this link: 
http://www.knighttemplar.org/LarmeniusCharter.pdf

The Jesuits also helped creating the rituals for a few
of the degrees of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish
Rite , and that?s another problem for us now , as we
dont want to deal anymore with the Jesuit General but
still want to keep the Rite as strong as always but
possibly free of any external influence from the
Vatican enemy.

Fraternal Regards,
Leo Lyon Zagami
Liberty Lodge No1
Kansas City

INTERVIEWER?S STATEMENT TO FELLOW RESEARCHERS & LISTENERS:

In this informal, impromptu interview Leo was recorded in the context of a fairly 

relaxed, non-live-on-air environment, resulting in his speaking as candidly as 

possible, which will hopefully provide a lot more information on which to base 

conclusions. Hopefully more recordings will be possible & made available. I feel that 

it is better to maintain an openness of communications with Leo, one way or the 

other.

My only motivation for recording this interview is to have as much information as 

possible on which to form my own understanding of what?s going on & to allow for 

others to be in a position to form theirs. It is not to subvert, infiltrate or 

propagandise. I have no radio ratings or listenership to worry about, no funding or 

any other related matters that are of concern in this regards.

I?ll also take this opportunity to state that even though we discuss matters of his 

personal belief & understanding that aren?t my own, I wanted Leo to be able to make 

statements that were as clear as possible on these matters.

In truth & awareness -

Troy -
2008 05 09: TROY INTERVIEWS LEO LYON ZAGAMI #3 - 200 MINS.

PLEASE CLICK THE FOLLOWING U.R.L. TO DOWNLOAD OR STREAM THIS NEW & INDEPTH 

TRANSATLANTIC INTERVIEW WITH LEO, IN A RELATIVELY INFORMAL, RADIO-FREE PHONE CALL 

RECORDING:
 
http://www.mediafire.com/?10fgpnxynp4

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200:04 (3h20m)

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